The Roma Holocaust
When we hear the term holocaust, we immediately think of the plight of the
Jews during WWII. However, many of us forget - or are unaware - that
hundreds of thousands of members of a different community also fell victim
to the persecutions during the Second World War. Today, we'll visit a
conference, which took place under the Khamoro World Roma Festival and
discover the unknown holocaust of the Roma.
The conference, named the Genocide of the Roma during WWII, was held at the
headquarters of the Jewish community in Prague. Tomas Jelinek is the
community's chairman:
"For us it's quite important that the organisers of this festival
asked that we host today's seminar, which is dealing with the issue of
Roma history during the Second World War. I am not a historian, so there
are definitely some historians who can discuss the issue, what was the
difference of the Jewish holocaust and the history of the Roma in the
different regions. What's important for me is that we as the Czech-Jewish
community live in the country which had a Czech-Roma community, which
perished almost in the same percentage as the Jewish community. So for us,
it's more that our grandparents were the neighbours of the Czech-Roma at
Auschwitz. So for us, it's more an emotional issue and not an issue of
historical analysis. So, we took it from this side."
Jana Horvathova, is the deputy director of the Museum of Roma Culture in
Brno:
"Under the Protectorate, there were about seven thousand Roma. Out of
these only some five hundred and eighty-three survived - the large
majority died. They mainly were able to survive by hiding, not getting on
the transports, or fleeing abroad. The Czech people saved only a very
small number; several tens of Roma. In the camps in Lety and Hodonin,
there must have been over three thousand Roma. In each camp about three
hundred died. They were mainly women and children, for whom the conditions
were too harsh. As far as the total number of Roma victims during WWII is
concerned, it is still being discussed because there is little
documentation. The numbers vary between 350,000 and two million. I
personally think that there were about half a million victims."
The Roma Holocaust was a dark period in the history of the Roma that
should never be forgotten. However, it took five years before it became a
topic of discussion at the World Roma Festival. So why did it take so
long? Tomas Jelinek:
"It's much more difficult to study the Roma holocaust because of so
few records. Also, the numbers of the Roma in Bohemia and Moravia were
smaller than of Jews. So, there is definitely an issue, which is the issue
of archives and resources. On the other side, during the Communist regime
there was a policy that the Roma community should assimilate and there was
never any international initiative, which would try to open the issue of
the Roma holocaust like it was on the Jewish side. There were Jewish
institutions in the USA, in Europe, and in Israel and they were taking
care of the research of what happened with the Jews from Central Europe.
It was also neglected by the Communist regime. But because of this
difference, this disparity, their history [of the Roma] has been studied
with few exceptions only during the last decade."
And with most witnesses already deceased it has not been an easy task.
Furthermore, there never really was an interest among the non-Roma Czech
population to look into the Roma Holocaust with more detail. Jana
Horvathova, Museum of Roma Culture:
"Unfortunately, the topic is taboo here in the Czech Republic and I'm
afraid it has something to do with this aversion against the Roma that a
large part of the public has. It is therefore very difficult for society
to understand what caused the genocide of the Roma during the Second World
War. People are unconsciously and latently convinced that what happened
with the Roma in WWII was in reaction to their anti-social behaviour. In
some speeches today you still hear this point. But the reality is
different and society finds it difficult to accept and understand this
fact."
"I have a feeling that generally, the whole approach of the people in
Europe towards the Roma community is quite complicated. It's not only the
story of Czechs but also the issue of people from Britain, France,
Hungary, Poland. I know that the better story you may find in schools were
people that get information about the history of the Roma community, they
learn about the rich past and about the horrible part of their history
during the Second World War and the people can relate much better. There
are big problems in the society, there are prejudices - between the Roma
and the Jewish community on both sides - but the hope is that the young
generation can learn more in schools and they can overcome these
prejudices."
A point made by Tomas Jelinek that Lidija Grebo, the chief organiser of
the conference agrees with:
"I think that Mr Stankiewicz [seminar participant, editor-in-chief of
Rrom po drom magazine in Poland] said a really great sentence. It doesn't
depend on numbers. Genocide is the general thing, the holocaust. So, in
that frame, I think that all young people should learn about what happened
during the Second World War because they have to learn how important that
issue is because it simply is our history and we have to learn something
from our history."
And another sad fact in the history of the Czech people is that the idea
of creating work camps did not come from Nazi Germany but had been
existing in the Czech lands much earlier. The work camps in Lety and
Hodonin that were meant for the unemployed were already managed by Czechs
before the Nazis occupied the entire country on March 15th 1933. Jana
Horvathova:
"That is linked to this taboo that I mentioned earlier. Already
during the First Republic proposals to manage the unemployed, and create
concentration camps for the Roma, appeared although, of course, there was
no way they could have been realized at the time. But it is true that
under the Second Republic there were government proposals to create work
camps."
But despite there being a lack of documentation, a lack of witnesses, and
most importantly a lack of interest and tolerance for the Roma minority,
Lidija Grebo believes that the Czech Republic is beginning to move in the
right direction and the Roma Holocaust will soon be in most text books:
"All countries will benefit in all issues when they enter the
European Union. Then a lot of things will not depend on particular
politicians or particular governments. The law should be put in accordance
with European standards and then a lot of things will be changed without
the will of anyone. It is just the rule. So, first of all, if the law will
be in accordance with European standards, a lot of problems that the Roma
have here will be solved. I do believe that Czechs will vote for EU
membership, I think a lot of things will be changed and will be better not
only for the Roma. I think there are two very important things. First of
all, I think that the Roma should be educated, should start to speak
openly about their problems and should fight for their rights. On the
other hand. Czech people who don't like the Roma should also learn that
there are only good and wrong [bad] individuals. Wrong [bad] people do not
exist and good people do not exist."
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